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Bartek
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Hi All,
I work on AS2 and I tried (with no success) to recreate opaque glass material similar to
http://www.archicentral.com/the-nelson-atkins-museum-of-art-kansas-city-usa-steven-holl-architects-4469/
This is slightly translucent glass (if you stay right behind it - your silhouette is visible, but if you move a few meters down the building - you can't be seen from the outside). Thanks to all we can see from the outside are 'blurry ghosts'/
I tried different techniques but there's no material that smoothly blurs the subjects behind it (the further the object - the biggest blur). So I prepared a quick model - just a box with one glazed wall + reference object inside.
Please help with it.
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Mark
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OK, I apologise if this is a ridiculous question (I mostly work through trial and error) but what happens if you massively reduce the wave size of the water shader?
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Jeremy
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Couldnt you just take the glass you have now, reduce the bump effect a bit and map an off-white texture to it and then set the ambience for the texture somewhat high? I think this would create a pretty close effect. I don't have time to play with this right now but I would give that a try.
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Jeremy
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Forgot to mention you would need to make that off-white texture somewhat transparent.
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Bartek
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Jeremy,
I’m sorry but it won’t do. The problem with Artlantis (v2) is that it can’t produce this ‘soft blur’. Please check link below (I found this photo on Flickr):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianchapman/474490407/
Please note how spiral staircase gradually blurs and the object in far background are entirely soft. On previous photos glazing was white – only because whole room interiors was white. There’s more photos of this material on Flickr. Please check it out.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=reglit&m=text
So the question remains – can Artlantis produce soft blur ?
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Chedda
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V3 of Art has a granulated glass shader i know it's not really helpfull. The time it will take you to make and test the shader and effect is better used with a simple post processing filter. Select the glass and gaussian blur or something. I have been in this situation before !
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Bartek
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Karl,
No - I can't see any of object inside the building. Your material is more like porcelain. Thanks, anyway.
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Jeremy
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I'm thinking maybe try using the Neon glass shader to these and then applying a transparent dirt map to make the bump effect then apply the white texture to it and set the ambience up. This will of course increase render time using this shader but you wouldn't need it set too high I would think. I would assume it would produce a more lit effect.
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Mark
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Hiya, the water effect looks really good but im guessing the problem is that its the wrong texture. have you tried putting a slightly translucent, very slightly bumped plane of glass just infront of the water effect to smooth out the look?
Mark
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Bartek
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Dolan,
I tried dozen different techniques (including modeling actual Glass blocks, adding 3 different layers, couple bump maps, etc.). Everything that I could came up with (and I’m quite experienced user – over 15 year of 3d work). I agree that water looks the best (that’s why I posted it in the first place). Artlantis has its limitation and quite narrow field to play with. I admit that this is the best rendering software for this price. I just can’t crack this material. That’s it. This is something half way between polycarbonate and glass block. And don’t let ‘polycarbonate’ from pop-up glass menu deceive you. It has nothing in common with actual polycarbonate (I tried to recreate this material in Artlantis without same result). I thought that maybe somebody already came across the solution – but obviously not. Thanks for all your help.
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I see what you mean, I havnt had a chance to try anything yet so ill give it a go tonight. It looks as though you have tried everything though. I just cant see any reason it doesnt work! it going to drive me mad.
Anyways if I come up with anything worthwhile ill let you know.
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PIBE CANTINA,
You just recreated my material (first and second image on this topic). Read the question once again. Thanks for the effort anyway.
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Dolan,
I have to admit that even thou it isn't perfect match (yet ;) ) but it is 10 times better than mine! Congrats! Would you be so nice and share the specs?
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OoKarLoO
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Nice Dolan. Good Idea. You win! ;)
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Dolan,
Thanks for the effort. I'll test it and let you know how it goes (but not now, because we are closing some project and we are crazy busy with it).
Regards
Bartek
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Bocador
First message : 2011-02-18 18:16:06
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Hi,
I'm register but I can see your images.
Can you post it again please.
Tahnks
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