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Date : 01/08/2010 12:05:21



Hi,

I don't like the lawn shaders in artlantis and would rather use models of grass patches instead of textures, so that they might look realistic. But obviously this is impossible, as my computer is of average power. Anyway such grass patches don't work well with winding paths. I have tried high resolution photos of lawns with enlarged vertical size , so that when placed on a flat surface, they would imitate grass with the blades well distinguished, but once again I failed. What is the best method to achieve a decent grass/lawn effect? Help me please, anyone.

Agnieszka

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Re: decent lawn/grass
Luciano Cuntreri

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Date : 01/08/2010 16:59:59

Attachment : erba lucio 1 e 2.rar


... Try this postcard .... I did it for the forum www.archiradar.com .... maybe you like it.
Regards.

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Re: decent lawn/grass
Luciano Cuntreri

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Date : 01/08/2010 17:02:48


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... obviously to have the same result as the image attached ... do not have to touch the settings of the textures ;-)

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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 01/08/2010 18:38:54


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Thanks a lot Luciano. I much appreciate your time and concern. But I cannot make use of your textures, because they make a pattern which doesn't look natural, no matter if I make any adjustments or not. In this attatchment I didn't make any adjustments to the settings of the texture.
i think that what I need is a much larger picture of a natural lawn. The main problem though is that I cannot make the blades stand up, especially on the sides of the view. It is much better in the centre.
Thanks anyway,

Agnieszka

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Re: decent lawn/grass
Luciano Cuntreri

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Date : 01/08/2010 20:18:22



... I understand .... but this is an insurmountable problem for the current Artlantis.

From what I understand .... you want a grass-dimensional .... very mangy thing to do ... why you should fill an entire lawn with some aof ... and the result from what I've seen around is also not satisfactory .... Besides the fact that you slow down the computer.

We look forward to a great leap in quality from our beloved rendering engine, namely the displacement ... and also add the hdri.

Regards .... Luciano. :-)

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Luciano Cuntreri

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Date : 01/08/2010 21:02:02



... hei .... but are you sure that what you posted is my postcard? .... eh eh eh .... to me it works better ... :-)

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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 01/09/2010 09:07:42



Maybe you are right. I am still new to postcards. The rar attachment contained 4 jpeg files of which there were 3 textures. I took one of them and put the result on the forum. What should I have done?

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Date : 01/09/2010 13:11:32



... The first thing to do is copy the folder you unzipped into the subfolder media -> Artlantis postcard to ... then you drag the piece of grass that you want from the thumbnail pictures on the surface that you want to change ... simple. In so doing, he takes you behind even the textures used to give the effect you see in the preview.

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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 01/09/2010 15:18:54


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Thanks. Now I know what postcards are for.
Though my lawn is still much worse than yours. No matter, I will try using aof models of grass here and there.
Thanks again

Agnieszka


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Date : 01/09/2010 19:13:18



.... good luck, but you'll notice immediately how much efforts put clumps of grass aof to cover a large area of lawn ...

.... however still it does not work the postcard or did not understand yet how to use it .... or the defect was caused by a different scale representation of your file Artlantis ... the postcard was made by me on a basic model built in ArchiCAD ... then 1 unit = 1 m

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Re: decent lawn/grass
Jeremy

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Date : 01/09/2010 23:23:54



I find the best way to get a decent grass is to use the one of the grass postcards included with Artlantis, then use the "Add Texture..." and map another grass texture on top of that. Make the texture repeat X & Y and adjust the size, make the texture partly transparent and increase bump effect slightly. The important part is to adjust the rotation of the base shader, set it to something that's not common, 28 degrees or something random like that. For the top texture give it a rotation that will produce a random repetition of the grass shader and textures. This way it will look much more natural.

Play with the bumps of the shader and the texture and find something that works well. Also adjust the mix colors of the texture and the base shader to get the right color that you want. I have managed to get some very decent looking grasses by doing this. I think the most important part is having more than 1 grass mixing together and the rotations of those grasses. It will work well once you get the settings right!

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Date : 01/10/2010 10:11:53


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Yes, I think the result is much better now, though it needs some retouching in photoshop, ie adding grass blades where they should be seen. But for the present it is quite satisfying. Thanks a lot Jeremy.

Agnieszka

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Re: decent lawn/grass
Gyorgy

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Date : 01/10/2010 12:33:53


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Hi Guys,

Luciano, thank you fror the nice postcard. Here is what I got without any additional adjustment.
Also thank you for Jeremy for his explanation.

Regards

George

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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 09/11/2010 22:22:48



Hi everyone,

what do you think has been used to make this lawn/grass? Simple shader in Arltantis?

http://www.abvent.com/community/galeries/images/web_1269070755.jpg
or
http://www.abvent.com/community/galeries/images/web_1275293227.jpg


Thank you for any suggestion.

Roberto

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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 09/14/2010 16:42:10


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Hi Everyone,

well i tried Luciano's grass and it's fantastic, much better than all the grass i tried before. Thank you so much!

And i'm looking for some kind of plant and flower as the ones in these pictures, above all the one in the first image.
I looked all the material in Archicad and all the Artlantis media cd i bought but i couldn't find anything similar.
Any ideas?

Thank you for any suggestion

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Re: decent lawn/grass
Patrick

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Date : 09/14/2010 16:53:40



Just use search function in this forum and you will find many links regarding good plants.
One is new:
http://www.artlantis.com/new-plants-3d-on-archiradar_f-atl_objets_us-2251.html

Simply visit www.archiradar.it and register. There are many really good plants and other objects for free. And they are all already converted :-)

Cheers
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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 09/14/2010 16:59:58


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Hi Patrick,

yes i already downloaded and used all the archiradar fantastic material(thanx archiradar ) but there is not the kind of plant i am looking for. I also bought all the Artlantis media cd and couldn't find it.

i attach a couple of pictures.

Thank you

Roberto

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Date : 09/14/2010 17:26:40



Hi Roberto,
show these pictures. Maybe someone has it (maybe me :-))

Cheers
Patrick

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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 09/14/2010 18:07:33


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ok!

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Date : 09/14/2010 18:10:37



These are the kind of plants i'm looking for, especially the second one with red flowers. These are a kind of tropical little bushes that looks very nice in front of the house.

Thank you for any help!

Roberto

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Date : 09/14/2010 18:41:43



OK Roberto,
but I don't think that I have this kind of plants. Maybe someone living more in the southern part of this world.
Cheers
Patrick

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Date : 09/15/2010 15:13:54

Attachment : arbusto.png


OB Hello, I can send you some plants similar to those rims .... always ArchiRADAR download .... Plants vol.5 by Lucio Vero


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Re: decent lawn/grass
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Date : 09/15/2010 15:18:11


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Sorry ... Always png format that is not accepted ... :-)



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Date : 09/15/2010 15:24:46


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Plants vol.1 by Lucio Vero


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Date : 09/15/2010 15:29:30


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Plants vol.3 by Lucio Vero


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Plants vol.4 by Lucio Vero

I hope you can help ... Regards.


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Date : 12/25/2010 20:46:19

Attachment : 013.max


I have the .max file of the first one u showed. U can open it with 3dsmax then export or save it as a .3ds format, then u can open it with artlantis then export as an .aof format.

cheers.

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